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Examining 5 Common Relationship Myths

There are but three certainties in life. Death, taxes, and John McCain’s inability to give a high five. While those three occurrences are virtually money in the bank, what you can’t always rely on is a complete understanding of love and relationships. Here’s the deal; as appealing as love may be, its intricacies are often as confusing as Al Sharpton’s insistence that man perms are cool.

A main factor contributing to this confusion is a laundry list of rules instituted by society long ago. But now it’s time to challenge those archaic principles as we examine Five Common Relationship Myths.

1. You’ll know instantly when you’ve found “the one.”

Hollywood, it seems, has glamorized the whole “love at first sight” concept. While I can’t find fault in those who do believe in such a lofty ideal, what I do take issue with is those who believe that this is the only true indicator that you’ve found true love. (“I haven’t fallen for him yet, so that must mean he’s not for me.”)

Sometimes the best love is slow to develop; initially starting as a simmer, but eventually boiling over and consuming the couple in a lifetime of emotional bliss.

2. If I’m cheated on, it means they don’t love me anymore.

There are many reasons that people cheat, but most have absolutely nothing to do with you. A common misconception is the belief that when someone cheats, it’s strictly caused by a lack of love. While that may be the case in some instances, on other occasions their issues may range from a mid-life crisis, a fear of commitment, or some other internal strife. While that doesn’t excuse their behavior, it should allow you to sleep better at night. In all actuality, they probably still “love” you. They just haven’t learned what true love requires.

3. Never go to bed angry.

There was an episode on the “Cosby Show” where Cliff and Claire decided to stay up all night to iron out their problems. When I saw that, I thought “Wow, that’s really cool.” As I grew older though, I began to realize that you don’t always say what you mean when you’re tired. As the tension mounts and the hour gets late, you may end up saying things that you’ll one day regret.

Try this method instead. Agree to get together the next day to talk after a good night’s sleep. That way you’ll both wake up refreshed and ready to address the issue at hand.

4. If they love me, they should know exactly what I want and need.

Relationship needs are in many ways similar to the way our soon to be ex-President spells his name, as both change daily. (Hey, I have to get these in while he’s still in office.) Seriously though, how can you possibly expect someone to fully understand what you’re thinking if you’re constantly evolving as a person? Placing such an unfair expectation on your significant other will ultimately leave you disappointed and thereby unfulfilled.

5. If I find the perfect person, they’ll make me feel complete.

No one can ever complete you…unless of course, you’re Lil Kim’s plastic surgeon. What a relationship can add though, is a new dimension to your life—but that’s about as far as it should go. Once you begin to love yourself and live life to the fullest, then and only then can you truly begin to appreciate what the other person brings to the table. Until then, you’ll never experience happiness in its purest form as you’ll often slip into this false reality. This “reality” causes you to believe that you are an imperfect being without the love of another person.

The Fly Guy Moral: This list only represents the tip of the iceberg, as many additional relationship rules have also been ingrained in us since birth. Some are probably right on point, while others need to be rejected from your life’s philosophy. In the end, judge each relationship principle accordingly, and if it doesn’t fit into your belief system, then let it go. You can’t be afraid to change and adapt the way you look at life, love and relationships.

Let the church say Amen.

Up For Discussion

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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    this was beautiful FG…I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. I think sometimes we as people think because our parents, friends or movies depict love going one way, then that’s the only way it can go and be considered real…but love, just like life, goes different ways for different ppl…there is no one formula to success, but all those formulas do include core values that love is built on. HOW you do it is not as important or regulated as WHAT the end result is…gerat post. Made me feel good first thing in the morning with this stupid cold…thanks for gettin back in the game! (wink) lol… :)

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    muahahahahaha @ McCain!!
    Hi chelz!!
    # 4 used to be a biggie for me but I’ve realized that I have to express myself verbally. Actions are great but words are also important. In a way, they further validate your feelings.
    Thanks, FG!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    wassup Fab girlie…are you logged into ur IM?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    exaviergirl

    *DEAD* @ “There are but three certainties in life. Death, taxes, and John McCain’s inability to give a high five.” Hillarious!!!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    exaviergirl

    His arm don’t go back like that, LOL

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    Hey, chelz…coming fr a meeting. I am now!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    where is everybody? :(

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    I’m in agreement with all except #4. I’m prone to disagree with it, but the word “exactly” is in there. Hmm. I don’t expect the guy to be psychic (maybe sometimes), but some things are elementary. I am one of the most easily read persons I know, AND I say EVERYTHING that enters my mind no matter the randomness. So where’s the line drawn b/w my having unfair expectations and your just not listening?

    Good day people!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Nishadiva Nishadiva

    @fab

    hey girlie

    @chelz/reina

    hey ladies

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Lyricalluv

    #2 and #4 WERE an issue for me but not anymore. #2 I came to the realization that some people will just cheat no matter how good you look,how good of a person you are,and not matter what you can offer to them (they just have a issue not always the other person)
    #4 I stopped expecting people to know what I want and expect of them everybody is not capbale of thinking of or about others, telling them one good time will not hurt , after that they are on their own

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    What’s up peeps?

    I agree with all of them for the most part. #4 is a sore subject for me because there are a lot of women who believe you’re supposed to know what they want and need early in the relationship. It takes time. But there are people who believe “the one” will “just know” how to handle them from the beginning.

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    T-Moe T-Moe

    Hey Chels!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @everyone

    Has anyone fallen for someone that they just had no idea they would ever fall for (not your type, younger, older, education level, income level, race, etc)?

    What made it ok for you to look past what originally would have stopped you and allow yourself to grow emotionally towards that person?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Reina
    How did it go this morning?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Nishadiva Nishadiva

    #4 for was always a big thing…but like LL said I dont expect ppl to just know anymore, I tell you once and after that your on your own kid. lol

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    Lyricalluv

    Hi FLY PEEPS !!!! hope you all are doing good today

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    Whats happening fly folk,

    I agree with moe. But I’ll go as far as to say that you shouldnt be EXPECTED to know exactly what someone wants at any point. Some things may be easy but others, not so much. People change in too many ways and too often.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss

    #4 is a little difficult. While I agree of course he shouldn’t automatically know that I don’t like ice in my fountain drinks if they are already cold but if after 6 months of dating you are not picking up on the fact that I don’t like mayo then that becomes an issue. bring me another sandwich with mayo and we will be fighting.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    nisha,
    Hey lady!
    LL, where you been? We missed you around here :)
    chelz,
    I used to have a list of guys i wouldnt date. It went something like this: guys with kids (baby mama drama, stereotypical, i know), guys older by 3 years, blah blah blah. Well, i dated a guy that had a son N was older than me by 4-5 years. N later, fell for a guy that has a son. Now, i no longer have a list because those things dont really matter when it comes to how I feel about that person. I follow my heart *tear*

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    And1, while I agree with most of you stated, i dont think ppl change that much and that often. If you observe someone’s manners/actions, after a while, you know what they like and they dont like. The basic things dont change.
    Hey Ms,
    you’re right. we would def be fighting over food lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @fab

    I ask because sometimes we can get so caught up in our ’standards’ and ‘qualifications’ that we dont even give ppl who dont match them to a tee a chance…so I was just curious to know if anyone here ever went out of their comfort zone and actually found someone they connected with on a serious level

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ moe and and1:

    I’ve been the typical woman guilty of expecting a guy to read my mind, but like Reina, there are some things that can easily be read about me. I’m usually a cuddlebunny who likes to be around a dude as much as my schedule will allow (which really isn’t a lot of time). But, if I say I need my space, I mean I NEED MY SPACE. Don’t call me, don’t text me, don’t send one of our mutual friends to find out any info. I go into my cave, and when I’m ready to deal with it, then I’ll call you.

    But I agree with all the points.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    ‘bring me another sandwich with mayo and we will be fighting.’

    Seriously…I remember that you only eat chocolate ice cream…why cant you remember that a sister don’t mess with hot sauce? is it really that hard? but yet you can recall the stats of a game that went down in Harlem 35 years ago (befor YOU were born?)…not sitting well with me. Show some interest and TRY!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    @fab
    I’m not saying everything changes. But some things do. It really doesnt matter how drastic the change is. And people change constantly.

    @JThought
    “Don’t call me, don’t text me, don’t send one of our mutual friends to find out any info. I go into my cave, and when I’m ready to deal with it, then I’ll call you.”

    That actually works in relationships?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    chelz,
    you’re definitely right about that. i know what characteristics a man id be interested in should have but i wont say “i dont wanna date u because u dont have a 6-pack”. Shit, i dont even have a 6-pack so it wouldnt make sense to even think like that! lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    Would you date a white guy?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    Chelsea to answer your question I can think of two: a short guy and a guy two years younger than me. I liked the short guy at first. It was strange dating a person that freaking short but he was really cool. Then he destroyed it by irking my last nerve in the movie theater. The guy younger than me was the last guy I dated. I really liked him and thought to give it a chance. Things were going great then he dropped off the face of the earth. In general though I usually give most guys a fair chance as long as they have a job and don’t live with their mother.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @J Thought
    Could you handle it if the guy told you the same thing?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    i strongly doubt it…I love my black men something fierce…as unlucky as I have been with them. I can never see myself with a white husband or mixed kids…white guys are nice and all, but no thanks. Although they tend to be really attracted to me tho. Maybe its cuz my name is ‘Chelsea’…idk

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    Chelsea you would really pass up a fantastic guy ready for a relationship just because he lacks melanin?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chelsea
    I doubt it’s your name…although they probably would find Chelsea more acceptable than Shaquanda. lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    @chelsea
    “Maybe its cuz my name is ‘Chelsea’”

    I’m gonna guess thats NOT it. lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    lol Moe…Hey, u never know! Shaquanda sounds a lil more “exotic” ;)

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Lyricalluv

    @Fab Hi chica !!!
    hospital has been over working me again, they had 146 layoffs this week so (pray for them)

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Miss

    ‘Chelsea you would really pass up a fantastic guy ready for a relationship just because he lacks melanin?’

    I have just an attraction and loyalty to black men. I’ve been approached by more than a few white guys (’regular’ white, ‘wigger’ white and in between, old and young) but its just not my thing. So the answer just may be ‘yes’ to ur question.

    @Moe
    ‘I doubt it’s your name…although they probably would find Chelsea more acceptable than Shaquanda. lol’

    I’m ROLLING on that one! lmao…

    @And1
    ‘I’m gonna guess thats NOT it. lol’

    so what you think it is?

    @Fab

    ‘lol Moe…Hey, u never know! Shaquanda sounds a lil more “exotic” ;)’

    and lord knows White men love the ‘exotic’!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    I always hate the ‘There are no good black men’ topic but….
    I honestly feel as if at this point in my life, at 23 years old. If I end up with a guy around my age more than likely he will be outside of my race. I am about 70% sure it is my area but all of these young black men in their 20’s are on some immature coon fest type crap. I don’t have the time or patience for that mess. And paired with the fact that most men opt for interracial dating anyways.

    Now if I want an older man, then sure I can guarantee that I could date a black man. He isn’t on that Soulja Boy bs (or at least shouldn’t be).

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    @ LL
    146? Devastating. I had to lay 15 ppl back in February and that was the hardest thing ive done in my career.
    @ chelz
    dont they? lol I dont know about dating a white guy. If he looks like that guy fr prison break or younger brad pitt, maybe? But truthfully, i havent met 1 that ive been attracted to.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    LMAO @ immature coon fest

    @ Chelsea

    I can’t say that I have. All of the guys in my past relationships would look fairly similar on paper. Careers and race may be different, but the characteristics that I’m attracted to were in each. I may not be easily impressed, but I’m pretty standard.

    Regarding the mind-reading thing, is this really such an impossibility? I don’t expect you to know that I wanted the wedge Louboutins, not the peep toe, but you should know that 24 hours with no word from you will put you in danger of bodily harm.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Fab

    the guy from Prison Break could get it in anyway he desired. I would marry HIS ass in a heartbeat…less than that if possible. HOWEVER…one of his parents is black…can’t remember which one…so maybe because he isn’t fully white is why I like him and would do him…and do him WELL!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    ‘I may not be easily impressed, but I’m pretty standard.’

    damn BFF…write a book already! cuz that right there is the truth!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @fab

    his dad is black! I googled it! that man is beyond sexy

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    Us poor biracials. So much research before attractiveness is given the thumbs up.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    No research needed when dealing with the Latinas. They can get it all day every day…and twice on Sunday.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Reina

    DAMN YOU LADY! I was just gonna say that Black women will give an average looking Black man an opportunity with little second thought on any given day…

    but let him be white (or look White) and he has to be A-list looks in order for her to consider it. I am guilty of this.

    But the Prison Break dude is fine as hell…I’d do Matthew Mac-what’s-his-face in a heartbeat too…esp. in those ‘A Time to Kill Days’….that man gave me FEVER!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    And Paul Walker from the Fast and the Furious…he could get it ANYWHERE!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    lol Reina.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Reina

    but I swear I see nothing Black abotu you, and I’m not trying to be funny…maybe in ur body but nothing abotu you makes me think ‘bi-racial? yes she is!’…sorry

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    @ Moe

    Sigh.

    I’m just going to start telling people that I’m last member of the tribe from Easter Island, and therefore, I have no idea what ingredients are in me. So do you want me or not?

    @ Chelsea

    I am not qualified to write as none of my relationships have resulted in marriage. Maybe I should date the next lowlife that hits on me.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    @ Moe

    THAT QUESTION WAS RHETORICAL.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    LOL Reina, see Moe’s comment!!
    chelz,
    oh really? i didnt know he was biracial…hmmmm! Matthew Mc(wuteva) is cute but something is off about that man, like he doesnt believe in baths or something. His body is on point!! That guy from one of those dance movies, step up?? i dont know but he looked greeeaaaaaaaaaat n his lips…oh his lips….

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    @ Chelsea

    My body has possible influence of Black but nada else? I’m not sure what that means.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Reina
    Why are you sighing at me? I told you…I’m an EOE.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    I know Reina…don’t get your bloomers in a bunch. lol

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    fabielicious fabie

    hahaha Moe, i doubt Reina ever wears bloomers

    I’m right to assume so, Reina?

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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    Reina is just proof that mixed with black doesn’t always mean african genes a stronger

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Fab
    Every woman has at least one pair of granny panties. lol

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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    Moe that isn’t true. I have no granny panties in my arsenal.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    Suuurrree Miss.

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    Reina REINA

    @ Moe

    You are an EOE up until size 8. You do realize that voids the equal opportunity aspect, right? And my bloomers or nonexistence of such are not up for discussion. But Fab is correct. :-D

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    i dont, Moeski. I have a couple pairs of “full-coverage” but thats about it lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Reina
    Since you choose to have selective memory…I will no longer have this discussion with you.

    Grandma Dynamite! lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Reina REINA

    @ Moe

    Explain this carte blanche given to Latinas. Why is that?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    Okay Fab…if you say it’s so…then it must be true. *sarcastic tone*

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Reina
    IMO…Latinas and Sisters are on the same level. I’ve heard many Sisters beg the differ..but again..that’s my opinion.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    Moe, i never knew u were sarcastic lol
    Reina,
    “You are an EOE up until size 8″ Good one, chica…good one!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    Moe, I refuse to own a pair of high waist granny panties. all my panties are bikini cut or boy shorts.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    Sigh..okay Miss.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    yea, Moe, what Ms said^^! i dont really do boyshorts tho.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Reina

    you said before that you have a ‘donk’ and that that aspect of you was representative of your Blackness…but I would never look at you and think you were mixed with anything but several types of Hispanic heritage…no offense, no trying to be funny…but I personally don’t see it.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Ms. Miss Ms. Miss

    most hispanic women have pretty ample booty though.

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    Reina REINA

    @ Chelsea

    I was joking about the ass thing. And no offense taken.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    boyshorts are sexy…i swear by them…those are what i consider my GP’s or PP’s….whatever you wanna refer to them as

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    actually, Reina, I just remembered something…

    I know I look ‘regular’ black and all that, but ppl (ie MEN) will usually ask me what my background is and when I say ‘I’m from the Bahamas’ its like a lightbulb goes off and they ALWAYS say ‘yeah I could tell you were mixed with something cuz regular black girls dont look like you’…

    and all of a sudden I’m ‘exotic’…

    **mouth hangs open**

    What does that mean?

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    esheblue

    Hello all!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    I think people tend to label someone exotic if they possess characteristics that are different from themselves. There’s normally one or two characteristics that separate the ‘exotic’ person from the norm. It depends on who’s judging. It could be the eyes, lips, hair, complexion, or whatever.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    thats stupid. and it goes back to me hating ppl who date certain ppl because they’re ‘exotic’ (Caribbean, South American, Asian, or otherwise)…all of a sudden I’m more of a catch because I LOOK more carribean? but not cuz I have Carribean values? dumb…

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    Depending on the man..you’re Carribean values could also play into the mix.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    For some guys, they know that Caribbean girls cook, clean and are loyal to the men they’re with. They take care of home and they know that men are the leaders and women the necessary support. West Indian chicks are typically old fashioned when it comes to love and family.

    But for most of the guys here, they know Caribbean girls have a certain body type and certain features. I had one guy break it down for me one time…very enlightening to say the least.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ moe and and1:

    I’m not talking about minor infractions or run of the mill relationship tiffs. And, yes, I would be able to handle a guy telling me the same thing if the circumstances were relatively equivalent. For me to need some serious space, then you have either effed up royally or I’m dealing with some major drama ( like family stuff) that has little to do with you directly but can impact our relationship negatively if I just fly off the handle and say the first thing that pops in my head (which won’t be nice). I’m a propenent of open communication, but sometimes the best way to handle a situation is to get your thinking straight before you open your mouth. But people who know me know that I am an introvert who handles things internally before I react.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    “For some guys, they know that Caribbean girls cook, clean and are loyal to the men they’re with. They take care of home and they know that men are the leaders and women the necessary support. West Indian chicks are typically old fashioned when it comes to love and family.”

    This is why one of my boys (Black Panamanian) married his wife (Trinidadian)

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @J Thought
    “But people who know me know that I am an introvert who handles things internally before I react.”

    I’m the same way, so I can relate.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Fab

    I know u lurkin…but ur Haitian and you speak a different language, plus you have an accent. Living in the DMV with lots and lots of black ppl…what kind of reaction do you get? I know New York has a big Haitian population, but I don’t know about DMV…you’re thoughts?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    On the topic of exotic:

    I’m a “regular” black girl, parents and both sets of grandparents are black, and I get hit with that exotic crap all the time. I don’t have the typical “exotic” features - almond shaped eyes, olive complexion. I’m cafe au lait and have wavy kinky hair, but I know a gazillion girls in the midwest (where I’m from) that have the similar features. I only get the exotic wrap from either Latino dudes who want to make me acceptable because I (in their words) look like could pass, or self hating black dudes that don’t really want a black woman, so I must be mixed with something.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    yeah…but Panamanian women like his mom (or whomever on whichever side the Panamanian comes from) probably have the same Caribbean values so it would be safe to say he would be attracked to like minded women. I could be wrong, but I would take a wager on that.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @J Thought
    “or self hating black dudes that don’t really want a black woman, so I must be mixed with something.”

    Why do they have to be self hating because they think you’re exotic?

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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    You would win that wager. A woman who coudn’t cook wasn’t even an option for him.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @JAT

    My parents are both black…mom has the Bahamian heritage tho, and dad is from deep woods Mississippi…I have almond eyes, a wide mouth, a very slim nose and a high forehead but I’m dark skinned and my natural hair is pretty long and shiny. Both sides of my mom’s fam have authentic Indian (cherokee and Seminole) as a heavy influence tho but very few of us reflect that aspect. But I have been approached with ‘what are you mixed with’ a LOT and it drives me crazy. I AM BLACK!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ TMoe:

    It’s their reaction to finding out that I am black. It’s like the opened a Christmas present to find a pair of tube socks.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @JAT
    lmao

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ Chels:

    I have regular rounded features. So the question is just stupid IMO.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    when you stipped down for us a while back (swoons at memory…remembers he’s a dinosaur and stops swooning…hehehe), I noticed that you looked really really pale (not trying to be funny) in that particular pic. Was it lighting and editing or are you mixed with anything? White grandma or something?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @JAT
    Is it really the question that’s stupid..or the response you get when they find out the truth?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @JAT

    then its probably because you’re light and have that all-envied ‘good’ hair…that automatically makes you ‘exotic’ and all that to most ppl…**shrugs**

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    There’s some white on my father’s side, but I don’t know where it starts. My Grandmother was extremely yellow. Everyone on that side of my family is my complexion or lighter. The pic on my FG profile is about as dark as I get, and that’s during the summer.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    ‘A woman who coudn’t cook wasn’t even an option for him.’

    Really? Could he cook himself at all? Was this a military friend of yours?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ Moe:

    I think it’s both, but I would say the reaction is more disappointing. But I didn’t get asked this question growing up. It wasn’t until I came to grand old dixie that I started to get asked if I was mixed.

    @ chels:

    I dunno. You might be right. Or I could just have an invisible sign on me that says “idiots ask your question here.”

    And I am not light skinned. I’m in the middle thank you very much. :-)

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    Yep, he could cook. His family made all of them learn. No, I met him a little over 6 yrs ago at my old job.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    blaze blaze

    Does anyone know the deal with Ethiopians and their perspective/history towards blacks? I heard they’re against dating blacks due to their culture.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @JAT

    I stand corrected. You said ‘cafe au lait’ and my ass has no idea what that is so I assumed it was yellowish-brownish or somewhere’s in that area. Forgive me, dearie

    @Moe

    I knew it…cuz u was looking damn near transparent in that pic. I had to squint to see your abs! LMAO!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Blaze

    Ethiopians? I think ppl from different counties generally dont date Black Americans since we get such a bad rap all the time

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ Chels:

    I’m only half playing. Cafe au lait is coffee with milk. Down south, I’m light. Up north, I’m in the middle (not really, but in my family I’m one of the darkest women, so that’s my story and I’m sticking to it).

    @ blaze:

    a lot of africans view american blacks through the stereotypes that they see in popular media.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    oh…cuz I know a lot of military dudes who went to Japan, China, Guam and other similar places and married the local girls of that particular country. And came back like they had won a prize…DIS-GUS-TING!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    blaze blaze

    Chels I think its deeper than that. In this area they’re many Ehtipoians, but I’m always told different stories on why they wont date blacks…

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @JAT

    everyone in my family is pretty much brown and darker brown…we have a few ‘Lite Brites’ but we dont claim them (I kid! I kid!)

    Coffe with milk huh? how much milk are we talkin exactly? a dash? a spoonful? a cup? the gallon? I need clarification in order to make a decision. Thank you very much!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Blaze

    really? there aren’t that many africans here…just Island ppl and Jews…so me knows nothing about that. What have they told you?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Blaze
    I know a brotha that’s dealing with an Ethiopian honey, and she told him that it’s frowned upon in their culture for them to date Blacks. When a brotha steps to an Ethiopian in the club, all the other Ethiopians are watching her to see if she talks to him. But it’s okay for the men to get at the Sisters.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    sorry, chels, was not lurking but on my way home! yay!
    on the subject: ive heard exotic so much that im ready to scream when someone brings up the word!! In this area, im seen as anything BUT black. Ive had ppl argue with me that i was mixed with something or i’m spanish. Then when i tell them im fr Haiti, they’re like “oh yea, you got some dominican in your family”. Both of my parents are black. Im sure our ancestry is very diverse: indian, french and africa. In high school, the kids were always asking me where i got my hair from. Mind you, i just got to the US, my conversational english was probably subpar so i was looking at them like they were crazy! Always thought there was something else behind the question. One time somebody asked me that again, i said “from God” *the end* LOL
    The thing i hate the most: “well, u dont look haitian” which i always address by asking what haitian looks like. That usually shuts them up.

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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Chels
    I witnessed a lot of those same women treating those dudes like sh*t, so I didn’t get to witness the pride part too often.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Just a Thought

    @ Chels:

    LOL. I am a light caramel.

    I feel you on that family not claiming the outliers. The only non-black person that is offically acknowledged in my family tree was the original slave holder who produced the nine biracial children that formed the nine heads of the family.
    But I think the lack of melanin comes from everyone before my grandmother’s generation only marrying black people that look like them.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    blaze blaze

    @Moe
    Thats exatly what I heard..they have a superior attitude towards blacks and their women are discouraged from dating US black men.

    @Chels
    There are so many Ethiopians here in this area with many ethiopian restaurants, clubs, etc. The male ethiopians are generally cool but the women will barely talk to us and there are a good number that are fine…very unfortunate.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    blaze,
    I’m not sure about that either. Ive heard they dont get serious with anybody that’s not ethiopian. They are expected to marry within.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Blaze

    men are usually taught to be more open then women. Interracial/cultural dating is ok when its a man doing it. But when it’s a woman, it’s a problem.

    My older brother(same dark complexion as me) dates ONLY very very light chicks, Spanish or mixed ones. A girl who looked like me or our mom would NEVER get a chance with him. His first baby mama is white/black, his second PR/black…perfectly ok with my mom.

    I brought a white boy home in high school to help me with a PROJECT and my fam damn near keeled over. I had a Hispanic boyfriend and my sister-in law (PR/black) said ‘at least he can give u light babies with long hair’..I stopped talkin to her for damn near 3 months

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    To extend on what Moe and Just have said, we (immigrants, west indians, wuteva u wanna call it) are usually discouraged from dating black americans. the media plays a detrimental role on how black males r portrayed n thats what others see. We always hear that black men here are no good. No offense to anyone, of course.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    I also have a friend who’s in the adult/porn business…she was telling me how she has to bill herself as being from the ‘Islands’ in order to land jobs (she’s Bahamian and Greek)…ppl outside this country are taught that black women are getting and neck-popping and Black men are killers, swindlers and dogs…so they dont date us, or they hesitate to and view us as sex objects to be used like a commodity. Sad…

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    Yea, chelz, its very interesting to see ppl’s reactions to black women. Everybody (almost) expect us to be loud, in-ur-face with everything. They dont expect us to be educated, reserved, or to have decorum. As usual, ppl get their ideas-stereotypical, of course- from media. That image is pushed upon audience but at the same time, you have to recognize it for what it is and make up your own views/opinions.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Fab

    i know…but if you’re caribbean…then you’re supposed to be soft-spoken, kind of delicate and earthy and somehow less brash then Black Americans

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Nishadiva Nishadiva

    I love the conversations on this site lol.

    **continues lurking**

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    EVERY nationality has its negative stereotypes. It really isnt about parents trying to exclude their kids from dating african americans. Its more about parents from a particular wanting their children to pursue other people from THAT culture. What culture doesnt do that?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    exactly chelz! I am a delicate flower tho

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    and1grad and1grad

    *That should be particular culture.

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    esheblue

    When I was living in Cameroon, West Africa…the most frequent video that came on television was Christina Milian’s Dip It Low–I think that says a lot about what is exported out of this country concerning women.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    @Blue
    That was a sexy video. lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @And1

    you’re right…but you cant deny that Black ppl get a bad rap around the world. I dont know any parent that would tell their kid ‘I know we’re white, but I want you to go out and form your own little rainbow coalition Becky’…its all about self-preservation and pride in your race and culture. But you cannot set a double standard with your children. Your son has mixed babies and no one makes a fuss, but your daughter has one boyfriend outside your race and you have to give her the evil eye. Not fair. Not right.

    But that also goes back to me demanding that you date me cuz you like ME, not cuz I’m from a different country and you’re friends will give you a pound for bagging an ‘Island’ chick…no thank you

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    Ok, so Black ladies…for those of you who have been hit on by men outside of the Black race…have you ever asked them what it is they like about you?

    I have and every single white guy tells me ‘Black women are strong, I love dark skin, they have such attitude and don’t take mess off anyone, they have rhythm and are just sexier than white women’

    I kid you not. Was I wrong to be irked?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    @chelsea
    My point isnt that Black people dont get a bad rap, its that everybody does. There has ALWAYS been a double standard in terms of men and women. IMO, there always will be. That said, parents arent just looking the other way b/c they have a son. They just look harder at the daughter. No it isnt fair…but if you’re expecting fairness, you’re in for a tough life.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @And1

    I do expect fairness, but at the same time I know realistically that it probably won’t happen. That doesn’t mean that i’m going to be quiet about it and it doesnt mean that i’m not going to point it out.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    @chelsea
    I think you were wrong to be irked. For one, you asked the question. Was that really not the answer you were expecting to get?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    blaze blaze

    I agree with And1. There a lot of americans that think all of africa is full jungles and wars because of the media and dont realize they have a few rich nations over there.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @eshe

    it does and that is exactly what I meant when i said ppl of other races/countries view Black Americans as sexual commodities…even though Christina isn’t fully Black, she readily identifies as such so we have to include her.

    I’m not tryna fight for racial exuality via FG Chronicles, but damn if I’m not trying to point out what I think is the reason things is the way they is!

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @And1

    I was irked the first time cuz I honestly had no idea that was going to come out of his mouth. By the 3rd-8th guy that said the same thing, I was just exasperated. I was asking to be curious, not because I was truly interested. I don’t date outside my race. But if I did, it would be for more reasons then ‘white men have long hair and it feels soft’…trust me

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    i agree with “They just look harder at the daughter”, And1…so true! Growing up, i wasnt allowed to do half of my male cousins did and always thought it was unfair. Now i appreciate being raised the way i was but still wish i wasnt so sheltered.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    blaze blaze

    @Chels
    What comes to your mind when you see a black man either pursusing or dating a white woman?

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Blaze

    honestly i dont care…cuz I dont know why he chose her or why she chose him.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    and1grad and1grad

    @chelsea
    How do you say something like “I dont date outside my race.” and then complain about others who date within their own culture? That doesnt make any sense. I’ve never understood why so many Black women trumpet that like its some kind of badge of honor. All it comes off as, to me, is you excluding others based simply on their race. IMO, that isnt something to be PROUD of.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @And1

    I’m sorry…i’m confused. When did I complain?

    I’m pretty sure Blaze asked why Ethiopians dont date Black Americans and I said because of the bad rap we tend to get. When did I say date Black and only Black or date White and only White?

    Chelsea only dates black cuz thats what I like. I also tend to go for dark skinned guys that are tall and muscular…that’s MY preference.

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    T-Moe T-Moe

    Where’s Reina?!

    How come it’s okay for Chelsea to have a preference for tall muscular dark skinned guys (and no one says anything)… but I get raked over the coals for my preference for a woman who’s a size 8 or less? lol

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    lol @ chelz referring to herself in the 3rd person

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    Chelsea...Not the Girl Next Door Chelsea the Troublemaker

    @Moe

    Miss got at me for passing up a prefectly ready white guy for a black man, so dont feel bad.

    @Fab

    Tryna get my point across. 3rd person always works

    **waits for And1 to give me a comment # on where I complained that ppl dated INSIDE their race**

    Wednesday, November 12, 2008
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    fabielicious fabie

    AHA Moeski, I was waiting for u to slip up!
    we’re not knocking ur preference BU