She's Letting Herself Go (Guest Feature)

Oct 6th, 2008 | Author: | Category: Fly Features
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By Chris Illuminati

Remember the first time you met your girlfriend or wife? Didn’t you love those skintight jeans and the top that made it impossible to look her in the eyes? Now think back to the wedding day: Months of dieting, Pilates, and expensive hair appointments transformed her into a beautiful bride and a head-turner on the honeymoon. Now snap back to the present: It’s a few years, an expired gym membership, several discount hair chops, and hundreds of weekends in extra large sweats later and your head-turning partner has become a head-scratching dilemma.

Truth be told, she’s letting herself go.

There could be a number of reasons why she’s letting herself go, but you don’t have the time or the psychology degree to figure out all the “whys.” You should, however, devise a plan to figure out how you are going to change her current attitude.

Here are some of the ways she’s letting herself go and suggestions on how to turn her back into a knockout.

She’s putting on weight

Life starts moving fast while the metabolism starts slowing down. Here’s a scenario that might explain why she’s letting herself go: She’s too tired to hit the gym and she’s always on the go, which leads her to constantly eat on the go. She’s letting herself go because she’s finding it impossible to eat healthy, which is leading to unwanted pounds. You want to tell her to hit the treadmill, but she would drop a 45-pound plate on your skull if you made any indication that she needed to lose weight. A few extra pounds may lead to a few bigger dress sizes and she becomes a fun-house mirror image of her old self.

Get her back into fighting shape: Make it all about you. Tell her you are feeling overweight and self-conscious and want to lose some weight. Ask her to be your gym buddy. If she doesn’t like grunting it out at the gym, find activities that promote fitness but don’t feel like working out. Arrange some “workout dates” like biking, hiking and stop for a low-fat snack afterward. Many women need an event for which to get ready; why do you think she looked so good on your wedding day? Pick an event to prepare for and train with her to run a 5K or to look your best for your next high school reunion.

She’s neglecting her hygiene

Ask any woman and she will tell you “beauty is pain.” Not only does it mean that it hurts to stay attractive (Bikini wax anyone?) but that it’s also a pain in her (once toned) butt to keep up the upkeep. So, now she’s letting herself go because it’s much easier to maintain the hygiene habits of an 11-year-old boy. Now her finger nails are short and dirty, she doesn’t shave (anywhere) often enough and she gets her hair cut and colored in salons that still specialize in perms.

Get her feeling fresh and frisky: Buy her a gift certificate for a day at the spa. Find a place that specializes in the maintenance of all the female areas and buy certificates for specific treatments like facials, nails, waxing or massages or one general certificate and let her choose how she spends it. At least something will get groomed. Give it to her as a “just because” gift and mention how she deserves to be pampered — then casually hint that you like it when she is waxed and manicured.

She’s dressing like a slob

It used to be that you couldn’t drag her out of the mall or high-end department stores. Now, she has traded in her designer attire for box-store discount duds. She has started to dress like a mom — worse, she’s letting herself go and becoming your mom — and it’s a major turnoff. The fact is that, just like men, at some point women care more about comfort than style and label. Also, if she has packed on more than a few pounds, she is going to pick clothes that she thinks will hide her extra weight.

Get her dressed to kill: Offer to take her shopping on your dime. Help her pick out outfits by telling her exactly what clothes you like and don’t like on her. If she sees that you keep picking tight shirts and low-rise jeans, she will get the hint. Make sure to venture into the lingerie section for nighttime attire. Ask her out on evening dates and tell her to get dressed up. Take her places where she knows other women will be dressed to impress so she has to dress well.

The Conclusion:

Just be subtle and tread lightly into each conversation you bring up about her weight, clothing choices and the fact that she has more underarm hair than half your men’s softball team. Each of these problems is easily remedied. Most important in all of this is to try to get to the bottom of exactly why she’s letting herself go. It could be something even more serious than just lack of time or effort.

The Fly Questions of the Day:
1. Have you ever let yourself go in a relationship? Why?
2. Have you ever been with someone who let themselves go? How did you address it?
3. Does letting yourself go encourage infidelity?

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  • blackfujones

    Oooo shit. Its’s 2am and I’m working and I’ve got first crack at this one here. Now I got into this with my wife twice. Once a few yrs ago,and actually right now. Back then it was the constant fast food(well her people aren’t good cooks so its always fast food for their meals) but now she had the baby a year ago and she’s feeling down bc of n extra ten pounds she put on. Now me I only trip on her appearance if she does. She said she hated her hair and I said do somethin about it. We argue for six months about literally,and when I convinced her to chop off her shoulder length hair she looked amazing to me. I guess what I’m trying to say with women its a really fine line when talking about their appearance. If she complains about her weight I’m all n her grill about losing it. My thing is don’t complain to me bc I’m gonna b on your case to help u fix it. My wife had once to tell me my eight pack turned into four,three weeks it took me to tighten up. However women need more coaxing

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    guess me and Black are up at em at 2am huh?

    anyway, i forsee a lot of posts on this one esp. from the guys.

    I’m a pretty conceited person, so I don’t think letting myself go is an option. I hate thinking other women are one-upping me if I can help it. I’ve personally had an ex tell me that I didn’t get as dressed up as often as I once used to, but that’s about it (in my defense, I was working and going to school full-time so my social life was damn near nonexistant, so I didn’t have PLACES to get dressed for!)

    I do think women get complacent as hell when they have a man as a permanent fixture in their lives. I hate saying this but if you have a man you need to maintain (as close and realistically as possible) to be the woman he originally was attracted to and subsequently fell in love with. Going to the gym suck…not allowing yourself polishing off an entire thing of Milano’s when you’re watching TV sucks…getting your hair done every week sucks (wait…no it doesn’t!) but grin and bear it ladies! It’s worth it…

    Lol…yeah right. Talk to me in 20 years when I finally decide to have my first child and see if I’m still poppin this “grin and bear it” bulls**t…

  • http://twoditzybroads.blogspot.com/ Bahama

    Uh…No, I have not and don’t think I will let myself go while I’m in a relationship. Even if/when I’m in a relationship I still wanna get the catcalls and whistles from other men (NOT THAT I WOULD ACT ON THEM…had to put that disclaimer,lol) but the thing with me is when I’m single I neglect the gym and eat fast food like it’s going outta style, don’t get me wrong i’m still hot sh!t :-) but not as hot as i would be when I’m with some one, lmao…and about question 3, I think it does. Three years into the relationship and you drank so many beers you have a keg belly, you stop getting the fresh haircuts and don’t know the last time you bought new underwear my eyes WILL start to wonder. It doesn’t mean I’ll cheat but the chances are higher I will.

  • blaze

    @Chelsea-Black
    Whats up with you? I saw how Fridays discussion got deep. I like how you held it down for the fellas.

    As far as today’s discussion…this may seem shallow not intended for it to be, but I had ex girl of 3 years who eventually moved on the to get married as soon as broke up. I was a little disturbed but after no seeing her for 2 years and eventually we bumped into her ad she pickedup the heavy weight, I’m talking a good 20-30pds. Any lasting feelings I had for her was finally out of my system outside of freindship but she really let herself go after she got married and it really made it easier for me to close that chapter. Her husband should have stayed on top of that one…,but he’s stuck with her now.

  • blackfujones

    @chelsea,told u I drive choo choo trains so I’m up at weird hours,one of u folks need to keep me company
    @blaze
    Of course we held it down,even tho Reina n I fell out for a minute. She straightened up once I laid my pimp hand down.lol

    No seriously I’m very meticulous about my appearance,only time I’ll get my scruffy on is when I’m n complete “grind” mode and I don’t care what I look like. But working out etc.isn’t an issue for me bc I’m an athlete. But every woman I knew from HS I wouldn’t touch at all bc they have that baby belly and said fuck it. As far as relationships go women do get complacent. The second my wife complains I tell her just fix it. But I’m definately a person who wants that same woman I married

  • Tubbs

    What up people,

    I have a lot to say on this, but I want to focus on what Bahama said. She said that she let’s herself go when she’s single, and keeps it together when she has someone. To me, that’s why a lot of women are having difficulty finding a man. Hate to say it, but it’s true.

    You figure that you don’t have a man around, so why shave, why work out, and why dress nice. But that’s precisely what gets us interested in the first place. Once you catch our eye, then your personality and all of your other wonderful qualities can be discovered, but if you are keeping yourself together before then, then we’ll never have a chance to find those things out because we’ll never give you a second look.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @black

    I have ‘conditional’ insomnia so some days I just don’t really sleep…nothing better to do then lurk on the internet and eat those Milano’s I mentioned before at 2am on a Sunday. Plus FG is addictive…first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem right? lol…Choo choo trains…you are a trip.

  • blaze

    I agree with Tubbs. A single woman should always keep herself tight, nice gear, hair and looking fit. You can run into a potential mate at any moment of the day. Another good look in additional of looking like you have yourself together is keeping an approachable look…Sista’s are always trying not to smile and give a bruh a nice glance knowing we got a good look, nice haircut..whateva it is.

  • Lyricalluv

    I come from a long line of women that take pride in themselves, so if one of the fabulous women in my family think that I’am letting myself go or slipping believe me they would let me know, hasn’t happened yet I’m always on constant dime status.No man likes to see his woman go from Halle Barry to Barry Gordy. I wouldn’t want my man to let himself go neither,I would say on the sly Hey sexy You want to go to the gym or go walking with me and keep me company, I need a new gym buddy.I believe in saying what you want in a tactful way so that you will not offend your S/O. Besides do you really want the silent treatment or suffer from cold nights in bed because you said um…. your getting fat tighten all that up, lmao.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Good Morning People!

    I have never let myself go in a relationship or ever. Ok. That’s a lie. I did gain about 5 lbs earlier this year, but it was cold and I was storing food. I wouldn’t let myself go in a relationship because I take pride in watching my guy drool when I pass and I know there are a lot of other chicas jockeying for my position. And if a woman wants to take him, she’s going to have to bring something better than her BEST A-game.

    For myse;f, I also enjoy looking good so I’m going to stay on top of things. Even when I’m single, the body stays tight. I will have my ugly days where I just don’t feel like it. But there shall be no unibrows, furry legs, etc.

    There were really good suggestions in the article. If my man is always complimenting me, I’m going to keep myself up. But I can imagine if a guy looked at me with indifference daily or seemed as if he was looking through me, I understand a woman letting herself go. We women like feedback.

  • http://andsoitislive.net/wordpress/ KaNisa

    Only a little concerned with how preoccupied everyone is with looks…

    So when you’re both 50, have gained a few pounds, have wrinkles, you’re going to have a wondering eye for someone who looks better?

    I thought relationships and attractions are based on more than just looks…

    The only way I could justify telling someone they need to loose weight is for health purposes. My love for them is based on more than how they look…

  • T-Moe

    This is probably going to start a whole new argument, but I read once that men get married hoping that things won’t change, and women get married expecting things to change. I understand that as we get older, our looks are going to fade to some extent…some greater than others. But that’s no excuse to let yourself go. I see people in their 50s in the gym all the time that could put 20 yr. olds to shame. The key is to make working out a lifestyle, and not something you do after things have gotten out of hand.

  • Lyricalluv

    A couple that I know has been married for 20 years,they never had kids.The husband said to his wife that she let herself go a little bit she admitted it herself,so he paid for her lap band procedure,she lost weight the first 6 months, and she has gained it all back, she has had the band for 3 years and she is back to the weight she was started off as, her husband is furious with her because of the money he paid fo rthe procedure an dher gym membership an dtreadmill at the house.They are still together but she is worrying herself to death about losing weight because his eyes are wondering.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @T-Moe

    I agree with you totally. Letting yourself go and progressing naturally with age are two completely different things. I know that a lot of marriages are faced with this and I think the ideas you presented that men and women have when approaching marriage are dead on. I may be 65 with wrinkles and some extra pounds because of kids, etc…but I’m NOT going to be a slob that just doesn’t care cuz “I got me a husband” and my SO shouldn’t be either

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    I’ll state this. I stay physically fit for me, not for a guy. I enjoy running & biking & all those things & looking good in my clothes. However, I also ate chocolate cake for breakfast this morning. LOL It requires balance and one’s own desire to be the shape they’re comfortable in.

    We all recognize that looks are not what’s most important in a relationship, but looks are what attracts us. And though responsibilities such as work, children, etc. will gradually start to become the priorities, I still want my guy to be physically attracted to me. I also want him to appreciate my mind and all I do, but I don’t want one without the other.

    As for age, my mom’s 50, raised three kids and had a successful career, and she wears a size smaller than me.

  • http://andsoitislive.net/wordpress/ KaNisa

    @ lyricalluv,

    But wouldn’t something like that really have underlying issues other than the way she looks? Or is “love” these days really so fragile, you have to be the “perfect version of yourself” in order for people to love you?

    That is SO discouraging. :(

    What is there left to believe in?!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Lyrical

    His eyes shouldn’t be wandering. And she’s probably gaining weight because she’s stressed out about him. She should want to lose the weight for herself and for health, and if she’s fine with the way she looks, she shouldn’t stress about it. And he should be encouraging her, not pestering her.

    And let’s all recognize that men also let themselves go. I always find it hilarious when someone like Rick Ross demands a chick that looks like Ciara. Seriously?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @Reina

    plz plz plz plz…don’t get me started on that subject (Rick Ross/Ciara)

    that ish irks the HELL outta me! I’mma stay mum on that cuz I could go ALL DAY on that one issue alone!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Get started, girl! I have 7 hours left where I’ll be sitting at this computer.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    1. Have you ever let yourself go in a relationship? Why?
    Never. Working out is a huge part of my lifestyle. I cant foresee that changing.
    2. Have you ever been with someone who let themselves go? How did you address it?
    Yes and the only way to address is tactfully like lyrical said earlier. In my experience, it didnt work enough and the relationship had to be dissolved.
    3. Does letting yourself go encourage infidelity?
    I’m gonna say no b/c I dont believe in there being an excuse for infidelity. That said, when your partner no longer finds you attractive, the relationship will probably fail.

  • Lyricalluv

    Oh forgot to add this when they met 20 years ago , she HAD AN EATING DISORDER in high school thats why she was the size that she was. It does make you think are some people that shallow and superficial to allow love ones to do harm to themselves to fit into their mold of perfection.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    Ok…to address the issue Reina brought up…

    I am all for finding the finest person you can possibly attract, because we have to admit that when you first meet someone, you’re not thinking “Oh, I bet he has a funny, friendly, open personality!” NO! You’re like “Girl, that man is GORGEOUS!” You’re ATTRACTED to the PHYSICALLY. All the nuances of personality, character, etc come later.

    So…with that said we also have to address the factor of being “equally yoked”. I think rappers/athletes/misc. millionaires have messed it up for all the average looking crowd of men because they think that they have a right to have this impossible set of physical standards for the women they date.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come across guys who are flat broke, unattractive (by even the most MINIMAL standards I could possibly conceive), underemployed, raggedy and just plain tired with no real aspirations or acomplishments who list all these traits they DEMAND in the women they date. I mean she has to rivaling Gabrielle Union in the fine department, be able to cook like Racheal Ray, dress like Rihanna, have a body like Buffie and put the sex game down like Heather Hunter…

    Really? And you are offering what? A couch in your mom’s house? A 1984 Honda Accord with no a/c? A part-time hustle as the neighborhood weed man? Puh-leeze. These men aren’t looking for these dime piece women to love, cherish and spoil…they looking for them to parade around on their arm to show people they ‘pulled’ a fine chick.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    And God forbid they have a little bit of money. Then they won’t even PISS on a chick unless she a 25 on the ‘Fine Scale’…I understand women outnumber men greatly and all that, but homeboy, you need a reality check. If you look like Rick Ross (hell, if you ARE Rick Ross) then you should be happy with any chick that takes the time to look your way. Seriously. Have standards, but have REALISTIC standards.

    Before you step to an attractive, accomplished, educated woman like myself, make sure you MATCH and COMPLIMENT me on EVERY level, or prepare to be dissed and dismissed. Your money does NOT make up for your apperance…I don’t care WHAT Jay-Z has you believing!

    (steps down off soapbox)

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    *erupts in raucous Obama-like applause for Chelsea*

  • chrissy snow

    just yesterday i was over my sister house and she had these pics of me from when i was slim, i mean super slim i had to have weighed iono 115 lbs i was sooooooooooooooooooo pretty too, still am, BUT i am bigger i have had 2 kids and i was looking @ the pics like damn i was awesome i will never get that thin again, hubby said you was too thin then, i like you now, it made me feel awesome, i had the big head all day yesterday, me and hubby have both gotten comfortable, i wouldn’t say we have let ourselves go, lol cause when we clean up we clean up really well, thank God he ain’t a picky ass man tho s’long as i shower 2 times a day and smell good, he is perfectly happy…..lol

  • http://andsoitislive.net/wordpress/ KaNisa

    Thank you chrissy! I thought I was going crazy for a minute!

  • T-Moe

    @Chelsea
    Money is sexy…I thought you knew! LOL

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    I actually agree with you for the MOST part but it does work both ways and all depends on the age range as well. Some women may think because they have a PH D and consider themselves “Ms. Independent”…They’re still a six. Its the frame of mind they get in. As women get older you all start lookin for the same type of guy….You have thousends of women looking for one type of guy when only a handful could actually book him. Come back down and get you a regulat dude thats a 5 or 6 with you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    No, success is sexy. Money is too easily gotten, but putting your time and effort and sweat and tears into something is more attractive than being born with a trust fund.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    And what makes someone a 5 or 6? (And can I state how much I hate these denotations? Are looks graded on a Richter scale?)

  • blaze

    @Reina
    Yes success and ambition is sexy but you that can’t be the ONLY thing that defines who you are and I see that a lot in certain circle I live in.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    (bows deeply at the raucous applause…

    sits back and waits for the aftermath…eyes Black, Tubbs, blaze, and1grad, Preston and T-Moe)

    Rebuttal anyone?

    @chrissy snow

    does your hubby have a single, available brother by any chance? Distance is NOT an issue (lol…j/k…kinda)

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @chelsea
    Those “nuances” you mention are the very foundation of what will make you more attracted/stay attracted to a person. “Finding the finest person you can possibly attract” is a young person’s dream and ultimately leads to missing out on a lot.

  • http://chicknamedvick.livejournal.com Ms. Miss

    Interesting…

    I let myself go after having my daughter, not necessarily once I got into a relationship. I spend tons of money dressing up my meatball head but not so much myself. Comfort is often chosen over Couture in my world. Like Tubbs said it is a turn off for many men but I am working on it trying to doll up my wardrobe a bit and I’m just on an all together makeover right now from head to toe literally. But I am slammed at work today so I’m out of this one. Have fun yall. I expect at least 200 posts in here.

  • Lyricalluv

    @chelsea
    You get 2 Amens and a Go girl for that one chica.

  • T-Moe

    @Blaze
    Most women (not all) refuse to date a man that’s not on their level education wise and career wise. I presented a scenario to a female friend once. She had her Master’s and she was doing her thing in the corporate world. I asked her if she would consider dating blue collar brotha…an auto mechanic…if he had a good heart…good personality…and he was good to you. He loved his job, so he had no desire to get a degree. I asked if she would give him a chance. After a long drawn out pause, she said “and he’s good to me?” I said yes. She said I “guess” I could do it. Many women put status before real love. I know many men, myself included, who would give the cashier at McDonald’s a chance if she was making a genuine effort to up her game.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Blaze

    Looks should NEVER define who a person is.

  • chrissy snow

    @KaNisa, nope not going crazy…lol u sane

    @Chelsea, naw,all his brothers are married….cept the youngest and he got a baby momma and a girlfriend sooooo….lol

  • blaze

    @Reina
    The scale is going to be different for everyone else but for me looks is just one element of your overall score, but it’s a great start. But like I said success and ambition is included,being goal oriented, sophistication, (remember letting yourself go is a mentality as well) they way a woman takes pride in herself (gear, hair, shoe and bag game) and what gets you over the top is if you’re approachable ( not only if I’m trying to holla but just say hello and give a brother the same respect if he smiles and says good morning..or even that head nod we talked about before..lol). That personality takes a woman to another level.

  • chrissy snow

    who would give the cashier at McDonald’s a chance if she was making a genuine effort to up her game.
    ^^^^lmmfatfo HA-I WOULDN’T…

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @T-Moe
    Word. And it’ll be those same women who talk the talk of not needing a man to “bring home the bacon.” Its nice to talk it but unfortunately, MOST cant or arent willing to walk it.

  • T-Moe

    @ Reina
    I agree, but that’s not the normal way of thinking for most people. Most people don’t give any thought (initially) to how someone obtained their wealth. They see a nice house…a nice car…and nice clothes…and they want into that world.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @guys (too lazy to name all ya’ll, so I say this collectively)

    The nuances are the bread and buter of a relationship. I am fully aware of this. But when you FIRST see someone, it’s the physical you notice first. Then you may see that she has everyone around her laughing and teasing each other. And then damn, she’s really nice and sweet and is that a Range Rover key in her hand? is that an MBA hanging in her office? She has her OWN OFFICE? (insert look of love on man’s face >here<)

    So physical attraction is a MUST in order to get you to the gate. After that, a person must possess the things you are looking for besides looks in order to keep your attention and move the relationship forward.

    I know I’m a very beautiful woman and I have done a lot in my life, and I look for men that match me as closely as possible.

    The same goes for women. Just because you look good and have the body of a video chick doesn’t mean you DESERVE that football player that just signed to the league for $75 million or a CEO of a national pharmaceutical company.

    My point is that while physical attraction is necessary, so is realism and perspective.

  • T-Moe

    @Chrissy
    My point exactly!

  • blaze

    @T Moe and And1grad
    I agree with you fellas. Sometimes its hard to get past those first intial questions that SOME women ask us brothers…Where do you work, where did you go to school, do you own a home..where?, etc. They’ve already have come to a conclusion just based on those questions alone. Also if you look substandard to what they prefer…you’re finished before you get started.

  • T-Moe

    @Blaze
    As one of my boys puts it, the mental calculator starts going off! LOL

  • chrissy snow

    lmao @ T-moe….well i am being honest….

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze, and1, T-Moe

    I am in complete agreement with all that. For myself, I’ve been never attracted to a man’s material possessions because I can obtain those on my own. As an educated woman with an advanced degree, I don’t need someone at my level degree-wise. Intelligence-wise, I do. If that blue-collar gentleman can sit down with me and discuss what’s occuring in the world outside of his own 2 blocks, well, he gets my attention.

    However, if when he goes home, he turns on BET and his channel never goes to CNN or his coffee table has XXL mags dating back to 2006 but not one TIME or Newsweek, well, then I’m out your league.

  • blaze

    @T Moe
    Fa sho….lol

  • T-Moe

    @Chrissy
    I know..LOL I ain’t mad at you. Most women are looking for providers, or at least someone who can bring something significant to the table. Chicken McNuggets & sweet tea would get real old real quick! LOL

  • blaze

    @ T Moe
    Thats after Reina hit him with all those “qualifying” questions first before they have these “world” discussions…

  • chrissy snow

    @T-Moe, see, you know damn well you ain’t tryna to make a life with a chick who slanging nuggets for a living…..lol, not that it’s anything wrong with that tho….

  • Lyricalluv

    @T-Moe
    Twist your words around a bit,women outnumber men,there are more successful women than they are men, some men meet a woman with a suit on,nice car,nice house and they get intimidated because they are insecure as to what they can offer and bring to the table to add to something that they feel that the woman has already accomplished.Then you have some men that see that same woman and see a meal ticket.So it goes both ways Women just have it harder than men as to finding a person that matches them

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    I can understand you wanting someone intelligent. I don’t want a beautiful dummy either!

  • Tubbs

    damn, I’m been working on a project. Can someone give me the current point that we’re arguing on I can jump in…lol.

  • blaze

    @Chrissy
    Even know we’re really just trippin about dating a Mc Donalds chic and all but seriously would you date good dude without a job?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    I don’t ask. I listen and observe. We’ve talked about this. And let’s talk about what women are asked or rather not asked. Rarely am I asked about my job or ambitons or passions. But “Girl, yo bawdy is banging. I would spoil you. Whatever you like, shawty. Just let a nig know.”

  • blaze

    @Reina
    I mean you did say before about how your property was highly appraised remember…? lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    All Chelsea was saying and what I’m in complete agreement is that you can’t demand what you don’t possess.

  • chrissy snow

    @Chrissy
    Even know we’re really just trippin about dating a Mc Donalds chic and all but seriously would you date good dude without a job?

    ^^^^how good can he be if he unemployed Blaze? lol it’s a reason why his ass can’t get a job….

  • Lyricalluv

    That has happened to me just Friday, A guy came up to me he automatically knew I was on a different level from him, the first thing he asked when he noticed my attire WHERE DO YOU WORK? AND WHAT DO YOU DO THERE? This before he even asks my name

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    It is highly appraised. LOL And it’s been on the market for a min but I’m not lowering the selling price. :D

  • blaze

    @Chrissy
    Hold up…I feel you but would if I hypothetically told you I didnt work at all because I wanted to take a break from for a year and so and didnt need to give you any other explaination….you mean you wouldn’t date me because I chose not to work?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    “All Chelsea was saying and what I’m in complete agreement is that you can’t demand what you don’t possess.”

    And this is why Reina is and always will be my best friend for life. She just…GETS me! lol..thanks mama!

  • T-Moe

    @Lyrical
    I understand where you’re coming from. I knew a dude who had the same issue. He makes low six figures, but the lady he was dealing with was worth several million. She had a huge home sitting on acres with a in-house studio where she broadcasted her own syndicated radio show, in addition to her career as a Psychologist. He couldn’t take it. He complained about how much of “her” money she spent! I asked him what his problem was! “She’s not asking YOU for money. Don’t make me call you what I wanna call you (B*TCH!).”

  • blaze

    @Reina
    lol…thats the prolem…Women need a bailout. Like the housing situation…all these women over appraising their proprty over the actual value and then they’re forced to foreclose because they over evaluated. We need a unified rating scale on whats a 10 and whats a 5 male and female.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    Oh and on grown men not working for WHATEVER reason (short of mental injury and serious injury)…

    You’re a grown, able-bodied man. What excuse can you possibly give me for not working? Unless you’re a full-time student…not just a freeloader.

    Women…I don’t believe in women not working either. If you ain’t got no job then that better be because you looking for one.

  • chrissy snow

    @Chrissy
    Hold up…I feel you but would if I hypothetically told you I didnt work at all because I wanted to take a break from for a year and so and didnt need to give you any other explaination….you mean you wouldn’t date me because I chose not to work?

    cool blaze, i would date you, but soon as you say something like let me hold a 20 spot imma be like naw remember you CHOSE not to work i can’t help ya bruh….

  • T-Moe

    LMAO @ Blaze

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    We women don’t need a bailout. Men just need to come with better offers. Women are and have been selling for unacceptable purchase prices for ages. That’s why there are so many of you with whack bedroom skills.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Why would ANYONE not be working voluntarily in this environment?

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    The whack bedroom skills go both ways. Every coochie ain’t a good coochie…contrary to popular belief!

  • Just a Thought

    Let myself go in one relationship – lots of excuses as to why, but I wasn’t happy and it showed. I think a lot of women just are insecure, and rely on a man to maintain them psychologically, emotionally, et. al.

    My biggest thing are dudes who let themselves go, whether or not they are in a relationship. Your boobs should not be bigger than mine, and lotion is your friend. Also, take out the clippers and attack your man fur if you are so afflicted. I may not be a girly-girl, but I don’t like a ruff negro. Keep it tight for me, and I’ll keep it tight for you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Your friend was intimidated by her. Why? I can’t wrap my head around that. Most men complain about independent women, and they complain about golddiggers. They dislike women who crave their attention and doesn’t have her own, but gets upset when a woman puts her career first so she CAN have her own. I just…*blows raspberry*

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @lyrical
    “Women just have it harder than men as to finding a person that matches them”

    I have to WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with that. Men actually have to prove themselves to a woman.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    I can’t refute that. I’ve only dealt with the bedroom skills of men. That being said, what makes one not good?

  • chrissy snow

    Why would ANYONE not be working voluntarily in this environment?
    ^^^^lmao i’m sayin’…..

  • blaze

    A job is not the only way to make paper. I knew a guy who decided not to work. He stacked a few hundred thou and he was receiving residual income and he wanted to take a yr off. He never told any woman about his savings. The only thing he said was that he didn’t work. He couldn’t book any ladies but it was real easy to weed out shallow women who thought he was just an unemployed cat. You never know what people are sittin on.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    One that won’t give any head for starters (per previous post) but that really is another discussion.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    I’m not going to ask someone I just met what they have in the bank. That’s not my biz. So how would a woman know? You’re not working, but your paper isn’t slacking up. That’s cause for suspicion. And I’m not saying that I wouldn’t date the guy, but I’m working and you’re sitting at home. Hmm. Yeah, that’s a hard pill to swallow.

  • chrissy snow

    @ blaze, lmmfao you killing me here…..what did he do all day then? watch his money?

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @blaze
    I dont think your friend was weeding out shallow women by saying he doesnt work. He just turning away women by making them think he’s a bum.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    BOO for that.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    I think it was the whole needed to be needed thing. He later tried to say it was because her physical appearance wasn’t what he liked, but that was BS. I might sound like a sellout on this, but men can be their own worst enemy sometimes. The first thing a lot of men do when they meet a woman they’re interested in is attempt to show their material worth. Exotic trips, $200 bottles of alcohol, giving the women money. Then when the woman takes the bait, we call them golddiggers. I can’t wrap my mind around that one.

  • blaze

    @Chrissy and Reina
    He had residual income so money is coming in and he’s been working for years and wanted to chill. Bills paid, decent crib-car, he just phyically didnt have a job. Its not different than all of us..we all work at our jobs, get paid but we’re all blogging between 9-5. So when a woman ask me what I accomplished during my day I’m lying so I can sound ambitious, goal oriented and successful..

  • Lyricalluv

    @and1
    Plesae clairfy, what do you feel you have to prove to women?

  • Just a Thought

    Okay, i probably missed a lot because I can’t read at work as much as I want to, but sometimes it is very frustrating for women that have a lot going for them. Most men want an intelligent woman, but not one that is smarter than he is (at least in his perception). And before you guys rebut this, there is scientific evidence that prove this point. And, a lot of ment really don’t want a woman that can outprovide them for a life partner (i’m not talking about users here). So, while I may be looking for a nice guy who has certain qualities not related to his pocketbook or looks, I often disqualify myself in their eyes because I’m too smart, too educated, and make more than they do. And please, fellas, do not take this as the same ol’ “all men are intimidated and need to step up” because I’m not trying to say that. But I have noticed that the male ego is a very fragile thing, and a lot of men, like most women, say they want one thing when they really don’t know how to enjoy what they say they want.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    Not every coochie feels the same. Some are wetter, some women have better control of their PC muscles i.e. coochie control. And then there’s the ones who just lay there and act like they’re doing you a favor by just being there. Move your lazy azz! Some women know what they want…and others take what they get.

  • chrissy snow

    He had residual income so money is coming in and he’s been working for years and wanted to chill

    ^^^^traslation he gets unemployment cause he got laid off from his job which he is cool with cause he been working since he was a teenager so his thoughts…”shiiiiiiiiiiid, imma chill then till this unmeployment stops….” lmmfao

  • blaze

    @Just a Thought
    I agree with you about a good number of men feeling like that. I never understood about men being intimidated or uncomfortable with their woman making more than themselves..Never understood that. But like you said, it can cause a lot if insecurity within a relationship because of the fear of her leaving him for a more successful man if problems were to arise. As we get older, I see more men and women getting married more for financial reasons than true love….thats real talk.

  • blaze

    @Chrissy
    Nah, lol, he had some successful smart investments go through and
    he inherited some paper….But see you never know that because you would get past his “unemployment”
    status…(relax..just making a point)

  • Lyricalluv

    @Blaze I’m sorry but if I guy tells me that he is taking off from working just for no apparent reason I will get mixed messages from that as well.What purpose does he have taking off from work for a year?Is he a full time student? Traveling the world? In the peace corp? Or is he just chilling at the house playing games all day or sitting in coffee shops or book stores all day. A man hear that from a woman he would think LAZY OR GOLD DIGGER

  • chrissy snow

    ahhahhahhah blaze i am relaxed it’s just funny to me, you gotta ask FG or Bahama, i am full of jokes and flirts, it’s either one or the other with me….

  • blaze

    @Lyricalluv
    See you would “assume” that he was lazy or a gold digger but he stays busy watching over his investments but he chills at the crib. But if his bills are paid, he doesnt ask you for nada why should you worry if he would treat you right, blowing your back out, etc and kisses you off to work everyday.
    A job doesn’t define who he is.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    I’m not judging the guy or saying I wouldn’t date him. Just saying a guy being unemployed voluntarily is suspicious and cause for concern.

    Why is it okay for a man to want a woman with Beyonce’s figure but not okay for a woman to want a guy with Jay-Z’s bank account? Both are shallow and does not guarantee a good relationship.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @lyrical
    Seriously? Being able to afford to take women out, maintain a place (the type of place varies) to live, mode of transportation, etc. I’m sure there’s myriad other things but those kind of demands really arent put on women as much.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    so….how do men feel about women that have low level, menial jobs (Mcdonald’s…grocery store clerk etc) or that don’t work at all?

  • chrissy snow

    awwwwwwwwww man lol i can’t WAIT for these answers to Chelsea’s question….

  • T-Moe

    @Just a Thought
    I can’t speak for all men, but I’m not intimidated by women that are smarter than I am, or who make more money. I was told a long time ago to find a flexible giving woman with a good attitude, who’s smarter than me with less baggage than me…so she can drag me up!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    ATTENTION!! I need all women to read post #85 where T-Moe has just admitted to the hypocrisy of men.

    As for me, such showy broadcasts of materialism have never attracted me. It actually puts me off. I would much rather a guy just have a conversation with me rather than flash his watch, car keys, etc.

    @ and1

    I do have to agree with you that man may have it harder.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    Am I the only one that gets tired of hearing that “the male ego is a fragile thing?” It should just be “ego is a fragile thing.” Our ego is no more fragile than yours.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @chelsea
    There is no comparison b/w men having a menial job and a woman having one. A man with a menial almost might as well be dogfood. A woman doesnt carry the same burden of having to be able to financially support a family.

  • Lyricalluv

    @And1
    Maybe its the type of women that you are trying to date.My motto is and I’m sticking to it SO SUE ME, He must have the same things as I do, I don’t expect a person to have any more or any less than I have.Men want an independent woman with their own so I would like an independent man with his as well.Nothing wrong with wanting to go out on dates and be treated like a lady, if women let men half ass they wouldn’t lift a finger or show that extra effort.

  • T-Moe

    @Chelsea
    Women with low level jobs are acceptable….if they’re in their final year of college! And she actually intends to use her degree. But I’m not looking for dead weight. My best friend made this mistake. He married a woman who has a degree, but no ambition whatsoever to do anything (work, clean, exercise), and he’s regretting it this day.

  • blaze

    I agree with T Moe– Trying to find a woman with limited baggage is important. A lot of you are still hung up on ex boyfreinds, how they treated u….I had nothing to do with that so I deserve a clean break until if and when I fuc up.

    @ Chelsea
    I would date a woman who is striving and maintaining her own. But it gets to the point of being with someone who has potential to the point in life when they should be doing it. Potential is for young boys and girls.

    @Chrissy Snow
    Its all love…you have to be careful not to set something off with just a comment….uh Chelsea.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @lyrical
    What type of woman are you implying that I’m trying to date? Are you willing to say that if you DIDNT have your own, that you would be checking for a man that didnt have his either?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    Your butt is ALWAYS calling me out…i said it once and Imma say it again…if I can do one thing and one thing well it’s incite passion and make myself memorable.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    and you guys all forgot the “woman not having a job at all” part, too….fyi

  • chrissy snow

    @Chrissy Snow
    Its all love…you have to be careful not to set something off with just a comment

    ^^^naw, you never have to worry bout that with me, here lately i never even comment i have just been rerading and enjoying ppl like Reina, and Chelsea, oh and blackfujones kills me….it’s just fun to get yall perspective on stuff, i am an old married woman…..

  • Lyricalluv

    I’m with Reina material things doesn’t effect me not one bit.Those things can be easily cars can be repossesed ,houses can be foreclosed,you can out grow the designer clothes,and jewerly can be stolen. Beneath all that thats what counts. Men think women expect a lot all we want is for men to be an equal to us and add to our life and not take away from it

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    Its all good good, do your thing.

    In regards to ur question.. would I date a woman if she didn’t have a job…? I would. I know a lot of intelligent, good women that currently dont work because of layoffs with this recession going on. Are they any less than the day before they were laid off…? No… Jobs come and go and its getting real out here.

  • chrissy snow

    lol if i was laid off, single and looking for a job in this economy, last thing on my mind would be dating….

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @chelsea
    I think you have to at least HAVE a job.

  • blaze

    @Chrissy snow
    But If you still wanted to date you still could because your dates would be sponsored by a man.. We pay 98% of the time regardless of who asks who. Its all good though..go backs to And1grad point…its more pressure for a man to maintain than a woman.

  • Lyricalluv

    @and1
    If I didn’t have my own I wouldn’t be trying to seek a man for a come up.If I don’t have it , I just don’t have it and I need to work on getting it me being a grown up and you needing the basic neccesities to live and function. A job (a job is considered livelihood), a car to get to work,and a roof over my head.As for as dating I don’t expect exspensive places those are a luxury, just take me out be a gentleman and court me and show me a good time.Plain and simple

  • chrissy snow

    lol @ blaze, i getcha, a free meal is better than nothing huh….

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    I remember the guy I was semi-seeing right before I met my ex-fiancee…

    I had just lost my job at the first accounting firm I worked for and I was trying to get back on my feet. I met him (well, re-met him) and one of the first questions he asked was “so where do you work”…i told him that I was inbetween jobs at the moment, and he looked at me with fear in his eyes (literally) and was like “oh…that ish ain’t attractive. So…you tryna find another job right?”

    I was FLOORED. You sell DRUGS and RAP (unsuccessfully), with a year-old baby and live with your mother! I have my own place, car, in school and no kids, plus I’m gorgeous. But I gave him a chance anyway…he paid for dates, etc until I got another position, then all of a sudden, he was like “can you get this?” Boy, please!

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    I can’t for you to write your first “Tell All” book….that joint is going to be serious..

  • chrissy snow

    no he didn’t Chelsea, he really had fear in his eyes lmao….

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    I have stories for days because contrary to popular belief, at one time, I was all for dating across the board, believing in men and relationships and just getting up and trying again after every failure.

    But when I write my book all of you FG commentators will get personalized copies, trust and believe it! :)

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @chrissy

    yeah girl…i think he may have thought I was gonna try and scam him for his lil “i stand on the corner moving big work” money…

    no homie…I heard in the streets that you could lay the pipe and I wanted my turn to bask in the afterglow…lol. That boy was a TRIP! AND he was older than me! Mmm mmm mmm..shaaaaaaaaaaame!

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @lyrical
    Just to be clear, essentially you’re saying that if you didnt have all of that (job, car,etc), you wouldnt be dating. Is that right?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @and1grad

    so any job is better than no job right? ok….(cuts eyes) right

  • chrissy snow

    i stand on the corner moving big work” money…
    ^^^^ see, lmao i am gone have to take a breather now…..

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @chelsea
    In general, any job IS better than no job. Of course, I dont really consider criminals so I’m sure that changes things for others.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @chelsea
    btw, how are you gonna complain about dating a criminal? He’s a criminal. I mean…what are you expecting?

  • Lyricalluv

    @and1
    Exactly,of anything you would need to focus on getting yourself together rather than trying to get with someone.Lets be honest a grown able body person should be working and trying to obtain his/her own to become independent.I get out the bed and go to work everyday YOU SHOULD TOO, I got to work to pay this car note and rent to make sure I have a stable place to stay SO SHOULD YOU.You are no better than I’am and men don’t like lazy women that depend on others and women do not like lazy able body men.If you can’t make an effort with yourself your damn sure not going to make a effort in a relationship

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @and1grad

    I wasnt worried bout his criminal activity. I was not dealing with him to find out if he was husband material. He was funny and charming and was great in bed…that’s ALL I wanted.

    All his lil comments and behavior were pure comedy to me.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @lyrical
    “If you can’t make an effort with yourself your damn sure not going to make a effort in a relationship.”

    Thats an excellent point. Well said.

    @chelsea
    Dont people who wind up married to the mob say the same stuff? To me, thats kinda like saying “He only beats me when I make him mad.”

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Ok. What’d I miss? I had to go get ice cream.

  • http://chicknamedvick.livejournal.com Ms. Miss

    lol Reina at your excuse.
    but foreally what are we talking bout?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @and1grad

    He was strictly just a passing of time. Like I said before, I had heard about his sexual prowess and I was curious to see if he was as good as the streets claimed he was. I would never seriously date a guy who was into drugs AND and unsuccessful rap career (one or the other…but never both…j/k)

    I sought HIM out, made the first move, got HIM into bed and then proceeded to hang out with him only when I had no one else to call…purpose served, point made. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Lyrical

    I agree with everything you said in your last post.

    So basically, we’ve all decided that we are shallow in various ways when it comes to dating?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @Reina

    Ice cream? I had fresh baked cookies today (4 to be exact)..

    and the convo…we’re not talking about anything. People are pretending to be working at the moment. Lol…

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Ms. Miss

    I did go get ice cream. That was my lunch and chocolate cake was breakfast. I guess I’m not doing my part to maintain my sexy.

  • blaze

    @Chelsre
    I like how you were honest with your intentions….you didn’t suger coat a thing

  • blaze

    @Reina
    How was your weekend in DC?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    What kind of cookies? Seriously, my sweet tooth is acting up today. I haven’t eaten anything of sustenance, just junk.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    I never learned how to be tactful in anything. Gift or curse? Who knows…but for the record the pipe was GREAT! lol…

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    It was fairly dull. I wasn’t feeling well so I just rested all weekend and worked on this project.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    chocolate trip…ooey gooey and oh so good…the only reason i stopped eating is cuz I ran out!

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    chip*…sorry

  • http://chicknamedvick.livejournal.com Ms. Miss

    Reina! Can I get you to maybe eat a piece of fresh fruit please! You know you’re half black, you don’t want to get the sugars…

  • blaze

    @Reina
    Let me know the next time you come to DC

  • http://chicknamedvick.livejournal.com Ms. Miss

    oh yea, what did everyone do this weekend?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    LMAO at the sugars! Ha ha! I had raspberries with whipped cream. Does that count? I know, I know. Don’t fuss at me. It’s not my fault.

  • Lyricalluv

    @Reina not shallow I was just being realistic

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    I haven’t left DC yet, been here for a week. Hopefully, we leave tomorrow.

    Also, where is the Richter Scale and all its variables? I need to determine where I fall.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ lyrical

    I know. I was addressing that part to everyone.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    That could start a lil controvery

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    This weekend? Friday…clubbed and bumped into an old fling…turned into a red hot sheet romp (graphic maybe? hey…it’s been a while)He started poppin that “what happened between us back in the day” mess…I chucked the deuces and went home to my bed.

    Saturday…slept..got tatted up…slept…saw Lakeview Terrace got treated to dinner at Melting Pot..yum!

    Sunday…slept

    you guys?

  • blaze

    Roots concert

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    Please. No one on this board is lacking for confidence. C’mon. I have three hours left. I’m good with controversy.

    Roots had a concert in DC? Goshdarnit. I would’ve come out for that. Shoot.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    What tat did you get? And I’m jealous about The Melting Pot. Well, mainly I’m jealous about the sex but I’m only admitting to The Melting Pot.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    well i just got my foot redone…color added and whatnot

    melting pot was great…haven’t been there in a while so i was loving it

    and the sex was better than i remembered…had been a while since I had any and like 4 yrs since I had him. Started wondering why we never worked…but oh well. had to be some reason…not interested in finding out why.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    First off I’m sure all of you have mad confidence in yourlselves but how can I grant you a high score with the use of slick words and descriptions.

    Also I left you my email address on the other post to connect prior going up to the concert…the joint was nice.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Blaze

    I’m not asking you to rate me. LOL I just want to know what the criteria is, the determining factors.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    That’s why I have to stay away from my exes. Well, those that were good in bed. Makes you forget why you left his arse in the first place.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @reina

    yeah I know…it was crazy because he moved like 8 hrs away from the town I live in now, so seeing him in the club of all places was a shock. Esp since it’s been like 4 yrs since I’ve seen him. But the way he stared at me when he noticed me and how he played me close all nite let me know the sexual attraction was still there. But…it was great to get what I needed and then drive home…no strings, no expectations. I love being single!!

  • blaze

    @Reina
    Ok, I’m about to break it down to you once I finish writing this proposal….I DO have to keep my job so I can at least meet one of you alls most important criteria which is having a job..

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    Aren’t those the best, though? When just his presence turns you on. I dated a guy once who just by saying my name made my panties uncomfortable. Unfortunately, he also had a firm grip on my heart strings. Can never go back there.

    @ blaze

    Learn how to multitask, playa. I’ve been working on this project since I sat down this morning and am now just finishing up a memo. I knew us women were the superior sex.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    lol..Ayo I’ve had 3 conference calls and I’ve written two proposals. You’re cut and paste art projects dont count.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    I’ve done my proposal and had it approved. It’s the reason I’m heading this project here in the capital. And it is not art, darling, but finances & equity. Get it together, Sweetie.
    :-P

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    not the cut and paste…lmao…she gon get you for that one!

    @reina

    yeah, and i think we just talked (typed?) him up because he just texted me “just chilling at home and you crossed my mind”

    hilarious

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    AND he’s a man that follows up? Goshdarnit, Chelsea, why’d you let him go?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    i honestly don’t remember! but we were comparing notes about what happened between us back in the day and he was saying a whole bunch of stuff i dont remember…hmm…maybe it was me…

    i seem to remember something about him being a man whore tho…idk…

  • blaze

    @Reina
    You’re dealing with finaces and equity and the proposal was written and accpeted the same day? Thats why this country had to get bailed out for credit purposes..

    @Chelsea
    You must have of handled your B.I. Sat night…

  • T-Moe

    Okay…what did I miss, other than Chelsea remimiscing about the debauchery that took place over the weekend?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    LOL That was good. Though I wouldn’t be shocked if my firm did have something to do with the crisis because thanks to that act passed on Friday, we are doing QUITE well. As for the proposal, it was written months ago, and I’m just making it down here to okay the resolution of it.

    @ Chelsea

    You were 16 four years ago. Try it again.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Try HIM again. You’ve already tried IT again

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    I most certainly did…no slacking over here!

    @T-Moe

    why my weekend gotta be all that? Besides…they asked.

  • T-Moe

    @Chelsea
    Ain’t nothing wrong with a lil’ debauchery! LOL

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @Reina

    damn BFF…why you gotta put me out like that?

    Anyway…i’m telling u…something was shifty and suspicious about his ass. And I know he was ho-ing around our town. I’m not all that willing to go thru some bullcrap with yet another man.

    But he was giving me butterflies the other night (hangs head in shame)…dammit.

  • blaze

    @Chlease
    Which one of you would be considered the jumpoff?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    I wasn’t putting you out there like that. LOL I’m just saying that GOOD sex is worth exploring more than once. You’ve both changed, possibly grown. And obviously, whatever you broke up for wasn’t that serious, because you can’t remember it.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    Him! He was the one trying to get me to stay the night and been calling/texting me ever since. I just wanted some extacy for the night and I acted accordingly.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    What’d you do over the weekend?

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    and you spell my name more and more wrong everytime you direct something at me…lol. Who the hell is Chlease?

  • T-Moe

    Went to this lounge/club Fri. & chilled out the rest of the weekend.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze & T-Moe

    Back to the topic of this thread, would you guys or have you guys ever left your girl because she was putting on weight?

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    What did you do?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Unfortunately, there was no debauchery involved. Just me and several finance reports. I did gain about two pounds, though.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    No. I’ve never had to deal with that. Low self esteem, drastic mood swings, & immaturity sent me running for the door with the last one.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    I never “left” one but I may been reluctant to fully committ.On the real when I prospect my future wife I really do have to look at her frame and consider if she can handle a few more pounds after having a baby or two….seriously and dont even try to same I’m shallow because all of you want that Tyrese..baby boy type look.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @T-Moe

    There sure isn’t anything wrong with that!

    “Low self esteem, drastic mood swings, & immaturity sent me running for the door with the last one.” – yeah that’ll do it!

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    From the looks of it, I’m sure your lack of debauchery was by choice.

  • blaze

    @Reina

    Here’s my personal criteria for a 8-10 you’ve been demanding…- Must be very social, ambitious, goal oriented, good fashion, hair stays done, athletic, socially consious of everything from sports to politics, good relationship with family, secure in herself, limited baggage from past relationships, semi affectionate…a risk taker …
    There;s a few and I feel everything in this list is fair

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ blaze

    LMAO Can’t be mad at you for your honesty. But how do you determine if she can handle a few extra pounds? Is she underweight when you marry her?

    @ T-Moe

    Low self-esteem and immaturity are definitely dealbreakers. But mood swings, every woman suffers from those. If you find one who doesn’t, she’s on medication and/or she no longer produces estrogen.

  • T-Moe

    Add cooking skills to what Blaze listed…and you’re a 15 in my book.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Thank you. It is by choice, but I’m just going to live through Chelsea for awhile.

    @ Blaze

    Dammit. I was with you up until sports. So does that make me a 7? What if I was EXTRA conscious about politics? And I’m very affectionate. Can I, at least, get like 8.5?

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    I know that women can be moody, but she was beyond that. I watered it down because I try not to make it a habit of dogging out women from my past. I never knew what I was going to get when she came over. I’m always in a good mood for the most part, but she had the ability to take the air out of the house…damn a room. And the worst road rage I’ve ever seen. She damn near ran these people off the highway because they were driving the speed limit onto an entrance ramp. Do that sh*t when I’m not in the car!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Those weren’t mood swings. She was bipolar.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    That’s what I was thinking. She actually asked herself if she was bipolar.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    What was ironic was that she had a Bachelor’s in Psychology, and was working on her Master’s. And she worked with children that acted like her and worse.

  • blackfujones

    Blah blah blah

    I so hate for women to drool over folks with nice bodies when they’re lookin like shit on a stick. I don’t work to have 15% body fat for nada.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    LMAO I’m definitely guilty of mood swings in the blink of an eye, but she was a bit much. And it’s those people who major in psychology that needs to be worried about. They’re trying to diagnose themselves.

    I’ve never had a guy leave me because of physicality, but I’ve definitely deadened potential relationships if a guy seemed to be too interested in what I ate and possibility of gaining weight.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    lol @ “She actually asked herself if she was bipolar.”

  • blaze

    @Reina
    lol..I can make an expception but you’ll have to watch some sports with me.

  • T-Moe

    As long as you keep it tight, you can eat what you want. As long as I workout, I can eat pretty much what I want (within moderation) and not gain weight.

  • T-Moe

    @and1grad
    Bruh…I could tell you some stories about that one.

  • blaze

    @T Moe
    How long did you stay with this lady?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Blaze

    Uh…I’m good with a 7. LOL I’ll watch sports if you watch Desperate Housewives and Grey’s Anatomy. Deal?

    @ T-Moe

    We all want our significant other to stay looking good, but I’m not for monitoring what someone eats. And I never want to feel so self-conscious around a guy that I only salads with the dressing on the side.

  • blaze

    @Reina
    I might be able to work with you….I still need to check out your shoe and bag game though. Women dont think that men pay attention to those things..not a deal breaker butits always nice to have that extra flavor in your the game.

    Which style on a man do you prefer? Women act like they like a guy in a suit but I get more play when I’m dressed down with hat and jeans.

  • T-Moe

    Got pulled into an impromptu meeting.

    @Blaze
    8 mo. longer than I should have. A year & a half altogether.

    @Reina
    I’m not for monitoring either. That will eventually kill the vibe in the relationship, & I have no desire to be someone’s warden.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @Reina

    don’t live thru me…this weekend’s sex romp was a RARE occasion…you probably gon be waiting a few months for the next one. You better get you some back-blowing action on your own girl!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Blaze

    Please. The shoe and bag game is on point. Furthermore, my entire accessory game is. If you haven’t been around long enough to hear that my main reason for not having kids is because that money goes on my shoes. The girl shops. Ridiculously. And takes much pride in her appearance.

    As for my fashion on a guy, I can’t lie. I like a well-dressed man. He could be in jeans or a suit. I’ve always been more about the man making the clothes. Confidence and sexuality will come through no matter what he wears, and that’s what I’m attracted to. But a man in a suit with good-smelling cologne, it’s kinda hard to turn that down. However, I do admit that I hate sagging of any kind.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Exactly. I dated a guy who was really into fitness, and not that I minded, because he was fine. However, I was not going to subscribe to his diet and workout regimen. I like my chocolate and bacon, and I’ve managed to enjoy both thus far in my life with no side-effects. The girl is going to stay with a nice figure. At least, until I have a child and we’ll talk again.

    @ Chelsea

    I can pretty much vow that I will not be experiencing any back-blowing activities anytime soon.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    You said Mom was 50 with 3 kids and holding it down, so you MIGHT be okay. lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    My mom’s an android.

  • T-Moe

    I’ve heard women say if they workout while they’re pregnant, it won’t take much to get their figure back.

  • blaze

    @Reina

    Another thing thats sexy about a lady is that she has the ability to be versatile…She can dress and look good in businees attire, killin in some stretch jeans and heels (never flats) and but still hold it down in some fresh sweats and sneakers chillin watching the games with me on Sundays. Plus a mean winter hat game like Nia long is Love Jones…. I also like ladies in long skirts with knee high boots.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    If and when I’m pregnant, I will not be stressed out about my figure. If a man leaves me or stresses me due to pounds I gained from having his child, he can step. I will not take suggestions/recommandations from someone who has not experienced it.

    However, I will require rubdowns of cocoa butter each night. I don’t want any varicose veins.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    I don’t like hat hair so null on that one.

    Never flats? What the hell? What’s so wrong with flats?

  • blaze

    @Reina
    Stretch marks is definitely a deal breaker…

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    “I will not take suggestions/recommandations from someone who has not experienced it.”

    Was this for me? If so, I’m quoting other women. Last I checked..I didn’t have a uterus. lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Blaze, you know what, you have too many demands. You can’t consider stretch marks a deal breaker when she had your frigging child. I want to punch you for that one.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    LOL No, T. Just speaking of a guy tried to tell me how and when to lose weight after having his child.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    WHAT? stretch marks are a no-no for you?

    Let me introduce you to the infamous words of my nig Katt Williams

    “Stretch marks ain’t sh**! They just tell a man two things. either you was small and got big or you was big and got small. Either way we f**kin…either way!”

    lmao…as a proud owner of some stretch marks I take offense.

  • T-Moe

    Just checking…LOL I just wanted to know if I was experiencing one of your drastic mood swings!

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    LOL Funny. No. Fortunately, only men I’m dating get to fully experience my mood swings.

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    Ok, I feel you…..there all good for jumpoffs but the only stretch marks I’m dealing with is from my future wifey/baby mama

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    Mental note…

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @blaze

    wow…hey…we all have our preferences. But I most certainly hope you not suffering from UNS (Unattractive Ni**a Syndrome) with all your potential mate requirements…cuz then I would be forced to clown you!

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    on the note of stretch marks…how does everyone feel about plastic surgery? Like…liposuction and breast lifts/implants (either before or after childbirth)??

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Yeah, Blaze. We need a pic to determine your worthiness of these demands.

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    Thats just a wish list….you know I have to bend on some of those criteria. UNS..?..lol….dont worry my numbers are good no matter…

  • T-Moe

    @Chelsea
    Where the hell did you get that one from?! UNS LOL

  • T-Moe

    I don’t have a problem with plastic surgery…as long as it’s not done on your face. I can’t get down with the Lil’ Kim syndrome.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @T-Moe

    from the depths of my mind…trust me. A lot of ish lurks there…I made it up!

    and I agree with my BFF…we demand some type of photo proof that you are not indeed a UNS sufferer, Blaze. Immediately…

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    Fa Sho..Once I get a pic with you and some damn clothes own..lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    I’m on the fence about plastic surgery. I think we’re all vain so why not do it? But too much of anything is bad, and when you no longer look like yourself, well… Unnecessary surgery is too big a risk for me. The thought of going under a knife is scary. However, after having a child, I may get the girls lifted.

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    oh that can be arranged right now! I have a plethora of pics at my fingertips…what you want? Dress…shorts? T shirt and tights? Face shot? Take your pick!

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    Nah, the one you have up is all good.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    So if I got some collagen injected in my lips, you wouldn’t be okay with that?

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    Blaze, stop stalling. Put up the pic.

  • http://and1grad.blogspot.com and1grad

    @Chelsea
    I think plastic surgery is ok as long as its not overdone.

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    wait..slow dow..I’m bout ta..aaaaahhhh

    I wouldn’t have a problem with that at all…lol

  • http://myspace.com/misschelsea724 Chelsea…Not the Girl Next Door

    @reina

    I know, right?

    @and1grad

    really? i’m surprised all you guys weren’t like “i ahte a fake a** bi**h! All natural ladies for me baby!” lol…I’m all for plastic surgery tho…considering some in the near future myself…and DEFINITELY gonna work on the body after having a kid (notice I said only one)

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    What was that about? And I’m too vain to let someone mess with the face. Nope.

  • T-Moe

    Collagen is cool…as long as you don’t walk away looking like a cartoon character.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ Chelsea

    Put the 2 piece back. It served for distracting the men.

    Nah, I’m good with my face and all its accoutrements.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    The last part was for T-Moe

  • http://twoditzybroads.blogspot.com/ Bahama

    TUBBS SAID: I have a lot to say on this, but I want to focus on what Bahama said. She said that she let’s herself go when she’s single, and keeps it together when she has someone.

    ^^^ You left out the important parts..I said neglect that doesn’t mean I stop going all together and THE MOST important part where I said i’m still hot sh!t…lmao but i see where you are coming from and trust me when I say, when I do go out and i’m on the prowl everything is sucked in, lifted and looking right. :-)

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    You don’t need it anyway.

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    @ T-Moe

    Gracias, sir.

  • blaze

    @Chelsea
    What are you considering getting done?

  • T-Moe

    @Reina
    De Nada (I think) LOL

  • http://www.myspace.com/205414106 Reina

    LOL That was correct.

    And oh, I know everyone on this board best be registered to vote.

  • T-Moe

    No doubt.

  • blaze

    My people, I’m out.

    All of you have a good evening and be safe. Holla at you tomorrow and hopefully we can stay on the topic at hand..

    Peace

  • T-Moe

    Peace Blaze

  • T-Moe

    I’m out of here too peeps.

    Have a good night.

    Peace!

  • blackfujones

    Plastic surgery,weave,etc. I don’t give a u know what. I take that as a woman giving her all to keep her shit tight to get at me. I find it complimenting to me when a woman goes to unbelievable means to look gorgeous. Long as u don’t look like lil kim u straight

    And aint shit wrong wit stretch marks,I like a woman with a lil tony the tiger n her. Hell I get called tiger ass due to a few stretch marks on my butt